tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post2178977889844166205..comments2024-03-29T12:44:28.973+13:00Comments on Anglican Down Under: Is it too late for anything, Covenant, Magisterium, goodwill to hold Communion together?Peter Carrellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-52431463719857572862010-09-10T07:16:47.391+12:002010-09-10T07:16:47.391+12:00Yes, Andrew, I must take my Virtue pills with a gr...Yes, Andrew, I must take my Virtue pills with a grain of salt!<br /><br />I agree that we (i.e. the Anglican spectrum as it runs through you, me, Mark Harris, and many others) is not facing squarely the issue of 'two gospels' and whether Communion is meaningful where there are two gospels and not one.<br /><br />I also think you highlight the weakness in Mark's astute point about mutual loyalty: what does 'common counsel' actually mean? On what basis can we say there is 'common' counsel, and is 'counsel' a meaningful concept in relation to unity compared with 'gospel'?Peter Carrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-80550298970044520262010-09-10T01:36:52.603+12:002010-09-10T01:36:52.603+12:00Hi Peter,
Virtue Online is a helpful resource for...Hi Peter,<br /><br />Virtue Online is a helpful resource for Anglican matters, and has excellent on-the-ground coverage of major events. However, David has a tendency to announce the death of the Communion every 5 minutes. His reporting of the CAPA conference is no doubt accurate, but his analysis tends towards black or white, with nothing in between.<br /><br />Mark Harris may have a point about dispersed authority, but his diagnosis of the Communion is flawed:<br /><i>The reason why the Anglican Communion is in trouble of cracking is not, I submit, primarily about doctrine or moral stances. It is mostly about the lack of mutual loyalty built on common counsel.</i><br /><br />Our problem is 2 different gospels trying to exist in the same church - a gospel of inclusion, and a gospel of forgiveness.<br /><br />I would argue we need to get to a common confessional stance - ie our core convictions - before we can look at dealing with other matters of doctrine and order. Whether that's through the Covenant, the Jerusalem Declaration, or some other process, we have to agree on the core convictions we share if we are to stick together as a Communion.Andrew Reidnoreply@blogger.com