tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post4007435044076100785..comments2024-03-29T06:58:28.383+13:00Comments on Anglican Down Under: Chloe's pink fluffy slippers are very fluffy (1 of 3)Peter Carrellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-88154350334350056362014-09-17T18:29:55.600+12:002014-09-17T18:29:55.600+12:00Thanks Bosco!
Yes, further reflections, absorbing ...Thanks Bosco!<br />Yes, further reflections, absorbing your own here, coming up.Peter Carrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-23205657790665035542014-09-17T16:14:00.392+12:002014-09-17T16:14:00.392+12:00Thanks, Peter, for this thoughtful launch of your ...Thanks, Peter, for this thoughtful launch of your fluffy-slippers series. <br /><br />I think that much that was positive in Charismatic Renewal is still of value today. I think that some of what happened can be reflected on and learnt from.<br /><br />In the order in which you write about them:<br /><br />I think you neglect to mention the said and sung material that was known and used “by heart” – and ecumenically. That may have placed a possible question mark alongside your redacted eucharistic prayer “in order to fit on an A5 sheet of paper”. There was no need, in a culture that was comfortable with “by heart” and extemporary, to have every last word of the eucharistic prayer “distributed to each person with weekly newsheets as they arrived.”<br /><br />Confession, of course, is optional in many Anglican traditions – creativity in that area seems less of a danger than the concocting of idiosyncratic creeds which should be questioned in every era. Much better to not use a creed (as allowed in our rites as at 1989) than to expect people to affirm something they haven’t seen before, let alone reflected on, let alone agree with (we have a rather peculiar NZ creed as it is in NZPB that no one even appears to know the origin of). <br /><br />Informal intercessions are very much within the understanding of NZPB. <br /><br />In short, your practice was not as illegal as you seem to suggest, but rather mostly following good liturgical understanding and formation. And where it departed from NZPB I still think a pause is warranted rather than the presumption that, for example, having Graham Kendrick is preferable to the Nicene Fathers or “the Apostles” prepare what I should affirm.<br /><br />It was, of course, “The Alternative Form for Ordering the Eucharist” with its abandonment of even agreeing to our own eucharistic prayers, and finally the confused and confusing “Worship Template”, that finally smashed the genie’s bottle and replaced this with fluffy slippers.<br /><br />I look forward to your next post in this series.<br /><br />Blessings<br /><br />Boscoliturgyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11822769747947139669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-49528969123156091362014-09-17T04:30:16.459+12:002014-09-17T04:30:16.459+12:00Well, Peter, I can report from San Francisco, tha...Well, Peter, I can report from San Francisco, that the worship in Grace Cathedral on Sunday morning could not be faulted. A wonderfully inspiring building with lovely stained glass all around. High Gothic with music to match. A Latin Introit by the surpliced choir, and a long procession into the Liturgy, with incense, crucifer, acolytes, Dean and other coped clergy proceeding in front of the Bishop (+Marc Andrus} in cope and mitre - with the full congregation lustily singing the lovely old hymn - Praise to the Lord, the Almighty, the King of Creation.<br /><br />The Gospel procession came down into the nave and the Deacon of the Mass, a diminutive black woman, recited the Gospel with wonderful diction, with the Alleluias before and after the Gospel sung by everyone. This large congregation was obviously used to the highest standard of congregational singing of the Mass setting.<br /><br />Dean Jane Shaw preached her final sermon as Dean - before moving with her partner to the academic confines of nearby Stanford University, where she and Sarah will be taking up academic posts. The Holy Cross Day Sermon was thought-provoking and soulful. This community is going to sorely miss the ministry of this feisty Oxford academic Dean, who has done much to improve the financial and spiritual provenance of the Cathedral in her four years ministry here. She is delightful. <br /><br />Diana and I met both Jane and Sarah (an Australian, who was studying at Oxford where she and Jane first met} together with Bishop Marc at the Farewell brunch for the Dean afterwards, and it was good to discuss the situation of TEC vis.a.vis the Anglican Communion.<br /><br />From our experience at Grace, TEC is still in very good heart, and flying the flag of intentional spirituality in this part of the Anglican world.Father Ron Smithhttp://kiwianglo.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com