tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post4432303439794598738..comments2024-03-19T16:52:19.962+13:00Comments on Anglican Down Under: Cracking Open This Sunday's Sermon, 16 Dec '12Peter Carrellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-32502979240766080632012-12-12T05:51:30.428+13:002012-12-12T05:51:30.428+13:00Hi Joshua,
I am against more than one sermon per s...Hi Joshua,<br />I am against more than one sermon per service!<br /><br />My personal style is to major one passage but to try very hard to draw into the sermon the relevance of the other reading or readings.<br /><br />Sometimes it is possible to find (as a colleague calls it) the 'golden thread' that runs through all the readings.Peter Carrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-59373567388978279832012-12-11T22:44:21.298+13:002012-12-11T22:44:21.298+13:00Peter,
I hear you. I too also use the Lectionary....Peter,<br /><br />I hear you. I too also use the Lectionary. I still think that "care must be taken when preaching through the<br />Lectionary not to impose on the numerous texts chosen for the day<br />a connection that isn’t there. Where there is recognition of the<br />diversity of each text in its context, we also need to avoid<br />overloading and even confusing our hearers with three or even<br />four mini-sermons within the one sermon. A good way to do that is<br />to focus the sermon on one passage, and, if it’s helpful to, refer to the others". Joshua Bovishttp://creideamhamhain.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-15887713529160355292012-12-11T21:49:40.360+13:002012-12-11T21:49:40.360+13:00Thanks Joshua and Bosco for comments.
Joshua, in ...Thanks Joshua and Bosco for comments.<br /><br />Joshua, in our diocese Bosoc and I are bound to use the lectionary by virtue of our bishop saying that what our church requires of us, she also requires of us.<br /><br />Bosco, The history of parish patterns re readings is peculiar to each parish. There is more at stake that's the addition of a few minutes to the service length. There are rosters and what have you. In the case of St Aidan's I do not know the history but I am thankful that there are two readings. Not every evangelical parish in NZ is so blessed!Peter Carrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-46660983955533344082012-12-11T15:29:01.698+13:002012-12-11T15:29:01.698+13:00The Lectionary - I read this recently on the Tasma...The Lectionary - I read this recently on the Tasmania Anglican Website:<br /><br /><i> It doesn’t have to be a choice of one or the other. It’s entirely<br />possible to alternate between a term preaching through the<br />Lectionary readings and a term preaching through a biblical book.<br />At the same time, care must be taken when preaching through the<br />Lectionary not to impose on the numerous texts chosen for the day<br />a connection that isn’t there. Where there is recognition of the<br />diversity of each text in its context, we also need to avoid<br />overloading and even confusing our hearers with three or even<br />four mini-sermons within the one sermon. A good way to do that is<br />to focus the sermon on one passage, and, if it’s helpful to, refer to the others. </i><br /><br />Good advice I think. <br /><br />For my thoughts on the Lectionary see link below<br />http://creideamhamhain.wordpress.com/2012/12/07/marcions-ghost/Joshua Bovishttp://creideamhamhain.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-50718285207860320702012-12-11T07:43:53.682+13:002012-12-11T07:43:53.682+13:00Thanks, Peter,
I continue to caution about the co...Thanks, Peter,<br /><br />I continue to caution about the constriction by the construction of themes. The season or feast is like the style of restaurant in which we are nourished, but God meets individual needs which are of a great variety. Music has different roles at different points (gathering in Advent, for example, has a different nuance to gathering in Easter). Prayer leaders (without covering every possibility) need to provide space for the many needs brought (as exemplified in our Prayer Book).<br /><br />As to why a church like St Aidan’s (and others) would halve the lectionary – I cannot imagine. Please explain. The inclusion of the wonderful reading from Zephaniah wouldn’t lengthen the service by a couple of minutes. And there will be wonderful settings for the community to sing the Isaiah text which (unusually) this Sunday instead of a psalm response. <br /><br />Thanks again for this new venture.<br /><br />Advent blessings<br /><br />Boscoliturgyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11822769747947139669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-16192400069521247922012-12-10T18:19:24.267+13:002012-12-10T18:19:24.267+13:00Hi Bosco,
I am not promising to last three years!
...Hi Bosco,<br />I am not promising to last three years!<br /><br />A theme, for me, becomes a short hand which aids music choosers and intercessors as they prepare for the service.<br /><br />Sentence: am open to learning more about the 'why' but, to be honest, I am not sure what its function is!<br /><br />Two readings is the norm at St Aidan's, as you know it is in many other parishes. If I were the vicar I would certainly contemplate having three readings.<br /><br />As for ADU, yes, there is no reason for not having three readings plus Psalm!Peter Carrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-40199166989745475942012-12-10T17:56:52.838+13:002012-12-10T17:56:52.838+13:00Greetings Peter,
I would encourage you, Peter, to...Greetings Peter,<br /><br />I would encourage you, Peter, to continue this. I tried to produce background information for each Sunday’s readings (social, cultural). I struggled to sustain the work it required, and have not (yet) completed the three years. Rev. Howard Pilgrim attempted to provide exegesis as a podcast. He also, unfortunately, could not sustain it for the full three year cycle. May you have greater perseverance! <br /><br />Might I add some suggestions that I’m sure you will take in the positive way that I am trying to encourage you. <br /><br />I think the “quest for a theme” is fraught. Yes, in a minority of Sundays connections may be found across the three readings and the psalm, but in the majority of Sundays seeking a theme results in imposing a theme onto the readings, rather than allowing us to hear what the Spirit is actually saying to the Church through the scriptures. The NZ-grown “Two Years Series” of readings, began with a set of themes, and then sought readings that would fit. The construction of the Three Year Series is quite different, and the quest for a theme superimposes a Two Years Series mentality onto an openness to hearing what God says which is unhelpful IMO. Better to follow the spirit of good expository preaching and allow the scriptures to address us and see where that leads us.<br /><br />What do you understand as the role of the Sentence? Where do you use it and how? How does it, in your mind, connect with your “theme”? Obviously, it is not a requirement, nor is it part of the lectionary. If it is used, might it be an appropriate verse as part of the “Alleluia” that welcomes the Gospel.<br /><br />Why are you using only half of the lectionary? There are (very rare) contexts in which the particular community may not be able to sustain attention through what the lectionary provides, but I think the full lectionary should be encouraged whenever possible and as the norm. It is a gift to us ecumenically and internationally. And part of that includes the restoration of the Old Testament. You yourself have been talking about the “Combo readings” and the interesting juxtaposition of readings. That is part of the treasure of the lectionary. We need to avoid neoMarcionism. It continues to fascinate me that those who do not use the lectionary (even contrary to their signed vows) give excuses that their own designed system is better than what has been internationally ecumenically agreed to (and by their own vowing). Yet the lectionary that they are criticising is often not the full provision but the cut-down version that is too often seen. <br /><br />Here are the texts:<br />http://lectionary.library.vanderbilt.edu/texts.php?id=97<br /><br />Thanks for all you do.<br />Advent blessings.<br /><br />Boscoliturgyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11822769747947139669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-39610017903207916842012-12-10T13:17:56.864+13:002012-12-10T13:17:56.864+13:00Hi Peter,
I am intrigued by the connections betwe...Hi Peter,<br /><br />I am intrigued by the connections between rejoicing in Phil 4:4 and gentleness in v5.<br /><br />It is a joy not insensitive to the situation of others. Revelry can sometimes be at the expense of others. Christian rejoicing, however, seeks to be contagious.<br /><br />Gentleness is great strength under greater control. To be rejoicing with the gentle is to be in a place of safety.<br /><br />MalcolmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com