tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post6909902874295930381..comments2024-03-29T17:55:30.203+13:00Comments on Anglican Down Under: 25, 55, 500, 145Peter Carrellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-25331652266247619952010-07-01T21:14:05.831+12:002010-07-01T21:14:05.831+12:00Al focuses on the communion stats. I was intereste...Al focuses on the communion stats. I was interested in the baptism stats. At that rate, even with 100% retention rate, St Michael's would only just retain its current congregational numbers within a generation. St John's congregational numbers would be reduced to a fifth of current numbers unless they rely on transference from other Christian communities.<br /><br />Blessings<br /><br />Boscoliturgyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11822769747947139669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-20005632634878555632010-06-30T06:59:37.172+12:002010-06-30T06:59:37.172+12:00Thanks, Peter - more transparency about what the f...Thanks, Peter - more transparency about what the figures actually mean would help. No school, for example, gives cumulative annual attendance, but the numbers on the roll and weekly attendance %.<br />ACANZP really ought to be colecting and publishing meaningful statistics, viz.<br />1. ASA for >16s (excluding twicers)<br />2. ASA for <16s<br />3. numbers of <16s in children's work<br />4. congregations 'broken down by age and sex', as the old joke has it.<br /><br />Not that numbers equate with being right or righteous either, as the truth isn't decided by popularity but by fidelity to Scripture.<br />Al MynorsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-10854564585728629482010-06-29T19:37:41.534+12:002010-06-29T19:37:41.534+12:00Hi Al,
In my experience NZ attendance stats includ...Hi Al,<br />In my experience NZ attendance stats include special festival services (and, as the case may be, school services) but not funerals or weddings. Generally "average Sunday attendance" figures are not required (where figures are required). Though I think one diocese at least seeks to have annual returns sent in for Sunday attendances in the month of June.<br /><br />All such attendance totals would include "twicers" and "thricers".Peter Carrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-726888040965759712010-06-29T17:49:39.033+12:002010-06-29T17:49:39.033+12:00St Michael's has a school, so I don't know...St Michael's has a school, so I don't know how that fact may feature in the global attendance figures.<br />Are these figures for >16s?<br />Do they count 'twicers' on a Sunday?<br />Do they include 'non-Sundays', eg.g carol services, Ash Wednesday etc?<br />Communion is obviously not a big thing at St John's.<br />It would make more sense (and shed more light) to give average Sunday attendance.<br />Al MynorsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-22970966186649150162010-06-28T22:38:29.043+12:002010-06-28T22:38:29.043+12:00Thanks for highlighting the forthcoming movie, Pet...Thanks for highlighting the forthcoming movie, Peter :-)<br /><br />I agree with the tenor, challenge, and points of your post.<br /><br />I just want to caution readers who don’t know Christchurch well about drawing more than Peter would want from the statistics that form the title of this post as there is a change of gear from numbers at a service to a total across all services. The official statistics of the diocese give:<br /><br />St John’s: 22,855 attendance in the year; 1,878 in June; 3,380 communicants for the year, 46 at Christmas, 51 at Easter; 4 baptisms;<br /><br />St Michael’s: 18,286 attendance in the year; 1,619 in June; 12,935 communicants for the year, 220 at Christmas, 207 at Easter; 16 baptisms;<br /><br />Blessings<br /><br />Boscoliturgyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11822769747947139669noreply@blogger.com