tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post9198990379603606344..comments2024-03-28T19:03:49.275+13:00Comments on Anglican Down Under: Reconciliation through conciliationPeter Carrellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-75001909589260400802010-10-14T22:05:16.888+13:002010-10-14T22:05:16.888+13:00Dear Dorothy G,
Thank you for your comment.
I will...Dear Dorothy G,<br />Thank you for your comment.<br />I will not publish comments on the matter you raise.<br />How ever that matter might be best taken forward, I am making a choice not to do that via this blog.<br />Blogging for the time being is free to anyone who wants to take it up and my advice is that if you wish to take that matter forward via a blog, then you do so yourself with your own blog posts on it.<br />Regards,<br />Peter Carrell.Peter Carrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-69997291276458428722010-10-13T06:18:46.969+13:002010-10-13T06:18:46.969+13:00So you know this for a fact, do you, David? Well, ...<i>So you know this for a fact, do you, David? Well, prove it; gossip and tittle tattle are unbecoming of Christians, and so is secrecy about sexual behavior among Christian leaders.</i><br /><br />I refer you to this post by the Revd. Colin Coward of England's Changing Attitude;<br />http://changingattitude-england.blogspot.com/2010/10/do-gay-bishops-and-primates-exist.html<br /><br />Yes, I personally know of one gay primate. As to whether he is sexually active, that is outside of my realm of knowledge. Perhaps known only to he himself, his possible partner(s) and God.Brother Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333089314994730330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-10831416820740779322010-10-12T20:37:21.588+13:002010-10-12T20:37:21.588+13:00[This comment is from Al M. I have edited out two ...[This comment is from Al M. I have edited out two sentences which have nothing to do with the content of this thread.]<br /><br />"Some provinces have consecrated active, and perhaps even monogamously partnered, gay bishops and not know about it because of the secrecy in those provinces."<br /><br />So you know this for a fact, do you, David? Well, prove it; gossip and tittle tattle are unbecoming of Christians, and so is secrecy about sexual behavior among Christian leaders.<br /><br /><br />Al M.Peter Carrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-80091681420118388572010-10-12T06:45:42.737+13:002010-10-12T06:45:42.737+13:00Al M, you should read what Suem wrote a bit more c...Al M, you should read what Suem wrote a bit more closely because you missed it completely.<br /><br />Openly gay or lesbian bishops in monogamous partnerships are consecrated only by TEC at this point in time because it has abolished the need for secrecy. Some provinces have consecrated active, and perhaps even monogamously partnered, gay bishops and not know about it because of the secrecy in those provinces.Brother Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333089314994730330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-18434114932719896382010-10-09T04:07:01.200+13:002010-10-09T04:07:01.200+13:00Two additional thoughts.
The Eastern Orthodox chu...Two additional thoughts.<br /><br />The Eastern Orthodox churches have a history of excommunicating one another and then bring back in communion a century later. Maybe that's the future for Anglicans. <br /><br />The Primate of the Indian Ocean has announced that he won't attend the Primates' meeting because the Bishop Jefferts Schori will be.Daniel Weirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11430381764138066595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-14034622035171402412010-10-07T20:06:18.503+13:002010-10-07T20:06:18.503+13:00Suem writes: "I do not mean the practice of c...Suem writes: "I do not mean the practice of consecrating actively gay bishops ( that happens anyway)"<br />- only in America<br />"but the practice of being prepared to be open about that fact."<br />- that has laready happened.<br />Suem, haven't you followed what the past seven years have been about? Do you know what it means to keep one's word?<br />Al M.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-82023412897296212262010-10-07T11:03:11.121+13:002010-10-07T11:03:11.121+13:00"Threats not to come to meetings, proposals t..."Threats not to come to meetings, proposals to walk away from one another, and the like do not express a commitment to unity." True. The scriptures warn strongly against fights and squabbles within the church.<br /><br />But they also say "you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat." (1 Cor 5:11)<br /><br />The church needs to take the call to both unity and holiness very seriously, and seems to regularly fail at both.Andrew Wnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-51996003293364169062010-10-07T08:29:03.399+13:002010-10-07T08:29:03.399+13:00I think this is a challenging post. I think you al...I think this is a challenging post. I think you already know that I believe that, if we are to remain united, there has to be some tolerance of a range of views- and indeed of practice. I do not mean the practice of consecrating actively gay bishops ( that happens anyway) but the practice of being prepared to be open about that fact.Suemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03128736092253293640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-21044124726826209442010-10-07T02:15:05.639+13:002010-10-07T02:15:05.639+13:00I appreciate your recognition that the Communion i...I appreciate your recognition that the Communion is not conciliar. If that was more widely recognized there were not have been such a need to assert that the Lambeth Conference's resolutions are not binding on the member churches. <br /><br />Given the reluctance of some to meet with those with whom they disagree, I think it unlikely that your hope for conciliation will be realized.Daniel Weirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11430381764138066595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-49869221667424742142010-10-06T19:22:35.018+13:002010-10-06T19:22:35.018+13:00As a Baptist I comment on this form the outside lo...As a Baptist I comment on this form the outside looking in - so I have to be careful. However, I share your distress when communion becomes an act of neither community nor union. That is something that happens to us all - regardless of denomination.<br /><br />In the first church where I served as minister the architects had designed it with curved wooden pews - all bent into the shape of the communion table which stood at the front of the church.<br /><br />Hmm- bent into shape by genuine communion. Now there's a thought...Richard Littledalehttp://richardlittledale.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com