tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post4622680943133369660..comments2024-03-28T22:29:52.666+13:00Comments on Anglican Down Under: On What Grounds Is Trump Wrong?Peter Carrellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-88579894716704356092016-10-18T09:46:52.760+13:002016-10-18T09:46:52.760+13:00What about the alleged sixty million that STALIN d...What about the alleged sixty million that STALIN disposed of;has anybody from the COMMUNIST PARTY repented of that, apologized to the people and sought their forgiveness.Glen Youngnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-29544462368411769172016-10-15T20:59:17.422+13:002016-10-15T20:59:17.422+13:00"That is also why Trump aligning himself with..."That is also why Trump aligning himself with the worldview put forward by Kremlin media like Sputnik and Pravda is not doing him any favours with US voters."<br /><br />It's doing him no favors with neocons and the Washington elite. I suspect that it does him a lot of favors with Americans more concerned with finding a job than going to war with Russia.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-50128898124061867512016-10-15T20:08:48.305+13:002016-10-15T20:08:48.305+13:00"That is also why Trump aligning himself with...<i>"That is also why Trump aligning himself with the worldview put forward by Kremlin media like Sputnik and Pravda is not doing him any favours with US voters."</i><br /><br />That's irrational Michael A - what media do you align yourself with? <br /><br />The American yellow press? <br /><br />Reality Bashar al Assad is the lawful authority in Syria, whether you like it or not<br /><br />And he is with Russian and Iranian help securing the last part of Aleppo in terrorist hands - God willing this will be achieved sooner rather than later<br /><br />The USA and its allies, who have no business in Syria are upset about this which is why we are getting all the posturing<br /><br />But international law is designed to prevent conflict and it is the USA, Saudi Arabia and Qatar etc who are violating it, not Syria or Russia or Iran. <br /><br />And while you are bombarded with images from East Aleppo, images sourced from the terrorist scum who have infested it you completely ignore the other cities under trial such as Sirte and Sanaa because it is politically inconvenient for the USA for these things to be acknowledged.<br /><br />Do you know over 2 million Iraqi citizens have died since the illegal 2003 invasion? - do you care? <br /><br />We are living in an incredibly dangerous time<br /><br />5 Billion dollars was invested in "<i>promoting democracy</i>" in Ukraine, an endeavour that saw an elected Government toppled by violence and replaced by a junta that has led to civil war.<br /><br />Do you know that it was known who the Americans wanted to lead the junta before the Government fell - A uniate for Prime Minister and a Baptist for President - Yatsenyuk (uniate) and Turchynov (Baptist) guaranteed to incite a civil war. Do you know the history of Ukraine from the 15th century to the end of WW2? I doubt it<br /><br />And all the while while the USA is destroying other peoples countries to benefit Wall Street American cities like Detroit are falling into decay - there have been over 3000 shootings in Chicago this year - its a war zone. And there is no money to fix this up<br /><br />An infantryman in Afghanistan is less likely to be shot than a young black man in Chicago <br /><br />This is the appeal of Donald Trump -- he speaks to thisAndreinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-67039617370783568752016-10-15T17:06:12.603+13:002016-10-15T17:06:12.603+13:00Hi Michael,
" I think that raises a differen...Hi Michael,<br /><br />" I think that raises a different issue for Republicans – why did they choose Trump as their candidate in the first place?"<br /><br />He's a genuine nationalist, on foreign policy, on border control, on immigration, and on economic policy. None of the other candidates were. And, with the possible exception of Cruz, the rest were just door class neocon puppets doing the bidding of their corporate masters. Or Israel's bidding. Or both. As far as Rubio or Jeb go, on issues like the economy, jobs and immigration, I can't see any difference between them and Hillary.<br /><br />"By contrast, Ronald Reagan in each of two elections gained the votes of a quarter of registered Democrats and over half of independent voters. Yet this year, of all the possible candidates Trump probably looked the least like achieving such cross-party appeal, so why choose him to oppose Hillary?"<br /><br />Wrong on both counts. Polls show Trump is getting most of the independent vote, and take a look at this:<br /><br />http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2016/10/13/tens-of-thousands-of-dems-leave-party-in-pa-switch-to-republican-n2231663<br /><br />I doubt that is the only rust belt state where that is happening. <br /><br />Heartland Americans are fed up with the corporate controlled mainstream in both parties. Fed up with their sons and daughters being slaughtered in foreign wars against countries that are no threat to the US, while their jobs are shipped to Mexico and China.<br /><br />I am all for boots on the ground to defeat ISIS, but the only reason we have to is because of Bush 2 and Obama. But Syria? What the hell does that have to do with the US? If they want to have a civil war, let them. The US should not support either side.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-30259490838331790192016-10-15T13:00:42.686+13:002016-10-15T13:00:42.686+13:00Hi Brendan,
“It is clear however that the presen...Hi Brendan, <br /><br />“It is clear however that the present US Administration has no strategy for 'victory' in Syria.”<br /><br />I don’t know that that is true, but I agree that it makes far more sense for the west to openly support the moderate opposition and send in troops. <br /><br />“There would never be a 'rebel' Government in Syria without them, should they remain undefeated, and yes they would slaughter those who opposed them given the opportunity.”<br /><br />The extremist Islamist groups will certainly not be defeated by Assad – he and his Russian and Iranian backers would rather do deals with them. And no, they won’t simply “slaughter those opposed to them” – like any extremists, they use terror as a weapon to get what they want, and once opposition is muted the killing tends to subside. But that is hardly a reason for not opposing them, rather the opposite. <br /><br />As for least worst in the US elections, I think that raises a different issue for Republicans – why did they choose Trump as their candidate in the first place? Hillary Clinton was deeply unpopular; this election was the Republicans to lose. Yet they chose a polarising candidate who cannot handle political pressure, and who at most can carry only the Republican base. <br /><br />By contrast, Ronald Reagan in each of two elections gained the votes of a quarter of registered Democrats and over half of independent voters. Yet this year, of all the possible candidates Trump probably looked the least like achieving such cross-party appeal, so why choose him to oppose Hillary?MichaelAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-62488461188003578082016-10-15T12:47:47.427+13:002016-10-15T12:47:47.427+13:00Michael A
"There is not the slightest eviden...Michael A<br /><br />"There is not the slightest evidence for that, and in any case it is a fantasy: Assad has long ago lost control in Syria, along with much of his power base."<br /><br />Assad controls most of the populated areas of Syria including most of Aleppo - there are 7 million internally displaced persons within Syria according to the UN and they are all in areas controlled by Bashar al Assad's Government. <br /><br /><br />Hi Andrei,<br /><br />No, Assad doesn’t control “most of the populated areas of Syria, nor are “all” internally displaced persons in Syria in areas controlled by Assad, plus of course there are many others that have fled to other countries who are just as displaced. Again, the primary reason for this is the indiscriminate terror bombing campaign by the Russian and Syrian air forces. Hence why a number of otherwise non-involved nations are seeking sanctions against Russia.<br /><br />That is also why Trump aligning himself with the worldview put forward by Kremlin media like Sputnik and Pravda is not doing him any favours with US voters. <br /><br />Your figures for Aleppo are also simply wrong. They are a cut-and-paste of things shown in Kremlin media, but not reflected by independent reports. <br /><br />And no, Assad does not remotely “have the support of his people”. He is having trouble holding onto the support of his own Alawite fraternity. Hence why I wrote above that Assad will never be the one to bring peace in Syria. That train has left the station.<br /><br />“How do you know this? You have never seen any News reports from the ground in Sirte, Libya for example.”<br /><br />Andrei, kindly do me the courtesy of NOT jumping to totally unjustified conclusions about what reports other people have or have not seen – unless you live in my house, you have no idea what I have seen.<br /><br />“The fact the US are bombing Libya is barely reported and then only in a sanitized way”<br /><br />Why the change of subject? You wrote this in response to my comments about Syria. Assuming it is a typo and you meant to write Syria, the difference between US and Western (including my own country) bombing in Syria is major. The west uses focussed hi-tech bombing which is directed at the enemy forces. Russia by contrast is openly using mass bombing directed at the civilian population (and against many respected independent organisations assisting them, such as medecins sans frontiers, who have testified to this). <br /><br />“You probably don't even know there are American troops operating in Syria and also in Ukraine involved killing Syrians and Christian Ukrainians. You will tell yourself this isn't so but it is”<br /><br />I am not telling myself, I am telling you and everyone: The part about Ukraine is rubbish. I follow events there quite closely, and the idea that US or any western troops are involved in the fighting is absurd. Apart from anything else, they have no need to be. They train Ukrainian troops, but that is a different matter. And since you bring up Christianity, the Ukrainian defendings against Russian aggression are almost entirely Christian. <br /><br />As for Syria, everyone knows that there have been some western special forces involved. So what?<br /><br />“Just like you don't know there were Americans at Tskhinvali supervising the killing of Ossetians and Russians back in 2008 because the American Government lies to the American people and misleads them all the time.”<br /><br />Oh please, there is no basis to this at all. There have been individual Americans and other westerners on BOTH sides of Russia’s recent wars, but no US troops in Georgia. <br /><br />I will follow with a quotation which you should take to heart:<br /><br />" Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it; so that when Men come to be undeceiv’d, it is too late; the Jest is over, and the Tale has had its Effect" - Jonathon SwiftMichaelAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-35268071523520604102016-10-14T19:56:42.586+13:002016-10-14T19:56:42.586+13:00Labour MP Mike Gapes says: 'If Putin does to A...<a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/us-uk-military-action-russia-syria-bombing-aleppo-a7360226.html" rel="nofollow">Labour MP Mike Gapes says</a>: 'If Putin does to Aleppo what he did to Grozny, then they are going to flatten it'<br /><br />What Putin <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su3Oh-7mAS8" rel="nofollow">has done to Grozny</a> :) <br /><br />It remains a land where men are men and women are women and men marry women not each another though - an anathema to the modern Godless Western mind which revels in blasphemies and general squalor Andreinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-86471496473313681232016-10-13T21:40:16.301+13:002016-10-13T21:40:16.301+13:00Syria is shaping up to be like the US Elections - ...<i>Syria is shaping up to be like the US Elections - there are just bad options either way, with Putin's support of the Assad Government being the least worst. Perhaps he is the Hillary Clinton of Syria, or maybe the Donald Trump, take your pick.</i><br /><br />He might even be the George Washington of Syria Brendon. <br /><br />I'm not saying he is - understand that, but I wouldn't preclude that possibility<br /><br />He is definitely a man of substance - as the Nation he was responsible for fell into chaos through outside malignant influences he could have fled like lesser leaders have leaving his people to be picked over by the vultures who created this havoc<br /><br />But he didn't - he is still in Damascus leading the resistance to the forces of darkness that assail his homeland rather than living out his life in luxury in Sochi or Moscow which was always an option for him, still is I suppose<br /><br />Whether or not he can rebuild Syria remains to be seen - I hope he does because that will be a victory for National Sovereignty and self determinationAndreinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-74422896311393438202016-10-13T18:57:20.392+13:002016-10-13T18:57:20.392+13:00When the American Supreme Court has the fortitude ...<br />When the American Supreme Court has the fortitude to admit that neo-Darwinism is a religion and that it should be barred from being taught in schools;young people leaving school,might not be indoctrinated that there is no purpose or plan to life.While they remain entrenched in this soul destroying religion,there can be no sane appraisal of what is right or wrong. There is only ME and MY FEELINGS.<br /><br />These liberal Judges have sailed into the SEA OF MADNESS and left the people without a compass or sextant to navigate their way out of this insanity. TEC has thrown its spiritual endorsement behind this denial of a "God Given Natural Order" manifest in the Creation around us, so that we are without EXCUSE; as well as the AUTHORITY of His Revelation ONCE GIVEN.<br /><br />But God has risen up a CHURCH (ACNA), to boldly speak about His Power and Might; and the LOVE He has shown the world,in the LIFE,DEATH and RESURRECTION of HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON,that whosoever believes on Him should not perish but have everlasting life.This is the GLORIOUS GOSPEL which the Church was given to proclaim.<br /><br />But,how dare any any sane parent think that this life preserving and rational ORIGIN OF LIFE AND THE WORLD AROUND US SHOULD BE TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS!!! NEVER IN YOUR NELLY---ITS CREATIONALISM AND WE HAVE BARRED IT.Glen Youngnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-15940506972380085242016-10-13T16:56:56.328+13:002016-10-13T16:56:56.328+13:00Michael A
"There is not the slightest eviden...Michael A<br /><br /><i>"There is not the slightest evidence for that, and in any case it is a fantasy: Assad has long ago lost control in Syria, along with much of his power base."</i><br /><br />Assad controls most of the populated areas of Syria including most of Aleppo - there are 7 million internally displaced persons within Syria according to the UN and they are all in areas controlled by Bashar al Assad's Government. <br /><br />Do you know what that means Michael A? <br /><br />It means that they have fled from <i>"rebel"</i> held areas to Government held ones - i,e, <b>They are looking to the Government in Damascus for safety Michael A!</b> In Aleppo itself there are 1.5 million people in Government held territory and a mere 250,000 or less in <i>"rebel"</i> territory. This should tell you everything. Bashar al Assad has the support of his people, maybe grudgingly in some cases but they know he is a far better proposition than the Terrorists the Americans, Saudis and Qataris have unleashed upon them and their nation in an act of undeclared war<br /><br /><i>"'And why Russians can described as engaging in terror bombing when the Americans et al and the Saudis are not is as mysterious to me as quantum physics would be to a dead mouse'<br /><br />For the simple reason that it is true. It has been amply attested in many news reports. I cannot comment on the Saudis, but the US and its western allies certainly are not doing so."</i><br /><br />How do you know this? You have never seen any News reports from the ground in Sirte, Libya for example. The fact the US are bombing Libya is barely reported and then only in a sanitized way - this is deliberate, they make it seem as though what they are doing is just and humane while what their enemies are doing is cruel and barbaric -its called propaganda Micheal A<br /><br />The American Government makes sure you don't see the results of their crimes and pretend they are acting for "humanitarian" reasons - a deceit invented during the Yugoslav wars and one of the greatest lies of all times!<br /><br />You probably don't even know there are American troops operating in Syria and also in Ukraine involved killing Syrians and Christian Ukrainians. You will tell yourself this isn't so but it is<br /><br />When they were bombing Yemen it wasn't reported by the American media at all and what little did get through implied the targets were Al Qaeda even though the dead were Shiite tribesmen and ergo not Al Qaeda <br /><br />Just like you don't know there were Americans at Tskhinvali supervising the killing of Ossetians and Russians back in 2008 because the American Government lies to the American people and misleads them all the time. <br /><br />You only get part of the story Michael A, the part that the American Government wants you to hear and even then it isn't accurate but a distortion created for their own self justification<br /><br />I will tell you a funny story about Tskhinvali Michael A - a Russian News cameraman filmed the bombardment of that city by the Georgians and his film was shown on American News Networks except they reported it as showing Gori being bombarded by Russians - this is 100% true Michael A it happened. And because not one American in a million could find either place on a map they would have got away with it unscathed if the cameraman in question hadn't seen it and if there were no Ossetians living in America who know their own city to tell of it<br /><br /><i>" Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it; so that when Men come to be undeceiv’d, it is too late; the Jest is over, and the Tale has had its Effect"</i> - Jonathon SwiftAndreinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-13831255358387127382016-10-13T15:12:43.425+13:002016-10-13T15:12:43.425+13:00Hi Michael
Well, I suspect none of the key player...Hi Michael<br /><br />Well, I suspect none of the key players in Syria are reading this blog, so our personal reflections are just that.<br /><br />It is clear however that the present US Administration has no strategy for 'victory' in Syria. It can never be obtained by CIA funding for disparate 'rebel' groups, and pretending to ignore the presence of the Al Nusra Front, an al-Qa'ida-affiliate and every bit as ruthless in their interpretation of Islam as ISIS and the Saudi's. <br /><br />There would never be a 'rebel' Government in Syria without them, should they remain undefeated, and yes they would slaughter those who opposed them given the opportunity.<br /><br />https://sputniknews.com/world/201610101046197600-mistura-nusra-aleppo-civilians-hostage/ <br /><br />Syria is shaping up to be like the US Elections - there are just bad options either way, with Putin's support of the Assad Government being the least worst. Perhaps he is the Hillary Clinton of Syria, or maybe the Donald Trump, take your pick.<br /><br />It is equally conceivable that Iraq and Syria become the battleground for Islam's 30 year sectarian 'war to exhaustion', but then perhaps that's too much to hope for? Peace being our first preference of course, but absent peace?<br /><br /><br />Brendan McNeillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02741263914308842497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-38007467406412159342016-10-13T14:11:50.901+13:002016-10-13T14:11:50.901+13:00"It is the same thing except the Syrian quest..."It is the same thing except the Syrian question is far far more important than "locker room banter" and perceived "sexism". And in a rational Presidential campaign it is the former that we would be debating not the later. Is there anyone reading here, regardless of position on the Middle East and Russia, who thinks otherwise?"<br /><br />Definitely.<br /><br />Firstly, its not just "locker room banter" or "sexism". Its sexual assault. I hope you understand the difference.<br /><br />Other revelations are almost as serious (e.g. Trump's admissions that he regularly walked in on the women's dressing room at his pageants while women were naked, including on at least one occasion underage girls). <br /><br />Secondly, these things are relevant (and much else besides) because they go to character. We don't just allow anyone to be leaders of our nations, and that is precisely because they have to make decisions about war and other important issues that you refer to.<br /><br />That is also why Hillary has justly come under fire, not for her husband's past behaviour which lies on him alone, but on her tactics in defending it in the past. It’s a legitimate question to ask. Mind you, it’s not one that Trump himself can ask, since he used to defend both Bill Clinton's actions and agree with Hillary's attitudes to it. But then, it does appear that Trump changes his views entirely as it suits his personal needs. Which again comes back to why he should be trusted as US Commander-in-Chief. MichaelAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-47663120772041230182016-10-13T14:01:19.852+13:002016-10-13T14:01:19.852+13:00Hi Andrei,
“If Libya post Muammar Gaddafi is so w...Hi Andrei,<br /><br />“If Libya post Muammar Gaddafi is so wonderful why are we seeing thousands drowning in the Mediterranean trying to escape it?”<br /><br />We aren’t – but thank you for the opportunity to correct a common misunderstanding on this point. Very few Libyans are fleeing from Libya. As the UN points out: “The principal nationalities on the Libya to Italy route so far this year have been Nigerians and Gambians, although among countries more commonly associated with refugee movements 9 per cent have been Somalis and 8 per cent Eritreans.” <br /><br />As for your attempt to justify the government in Damascus, it has long ago lost legitimacy, and it is clearly not trying to “maintain law and order”. Both it and its Russian allies are trying to re-establish control over people who have made it quite clear they do not wish to be ruled by it, and they are employing indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas to do so. That is not “trying to establish law and order” but trying to reconquer. <br /><br />“You are guilty of Western hubris and it will be the downfall of all of us.”<br /><br />A pity – most of your posts eschew personal comment and deal with the issues. The obvious response to this is that I consider that you are guilty of Russian hubris and it will be the downfall of all of us. ;o) Now, back to the issues:<br /><br />“And why Russians can described as engaging in terror bombing when the Americans et al and the Saudis are not is as mysterious to me as quantum physics would be to a dead mouse”<br /><br />For the simple reason that it is true. It has been amply attested in many news reports. I cannot comment on the Saudis, but the US and its western allies certainly are not doing so. And there is no point in pretending that this is just my opinion – it is precisely for this reason that the EU, led by Germany, is now considering additional sanctions against Russia, i.e. because of its indiscriminate bombing against civilian areas in Syria.<br /><br />Incidentally, I agree with your point above as to why this issue is relevant to the thread – it is part of the context of the contest between two US presidential candidates, a contest in which Russia often expresses interest. I disagree with your arguments, but not their relevance.MichaelAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-72026299480388379092016-10-13T13:38:38.828+13:002016-10-13T13:38:38.828+13:00Hi Brendan,
Libya is not nearly as bad as you ma...Hi Brendan, <br /><br />Libya is not nearly as bad as you make out. Yes, there is fighting there, but the majority of people actually lead normal lives and never hear any shooting. It’s easy for people in their arm chairs to hear about some fighting and imagine that its all over the country, but they need to travel a bit and calm down. Your point about “1,000 troops” only reinforces my point – you do realise that is just a battalion group?<br /><br />“As for Syria, it would be considerably better off with an Assad Government backed by Iran and the Russians”<br /><br />There is not the slightest evidence for that, and in any case it is a fantasy: Assad has long ago lost control in Syria, along with much of his power base. Whoever is able to impose a unified government in Syria, it won’t be Assad. He can be propped up by outside forces, but that’s all. And without Russia and the Iranians, he would quickly be gone, as you rightly acknowledge.<br /><br />“who would proceed with the systematic slaughter of those who opposed them the moment they took power.”<br /><br />Again, there is not the slightest evidence for that in the case of the moderate Syrian opposition. Certainly some groups would, notably ISIS, and ironically both Assad and the Russians avoid fighting ISIS when they can!<br /><br />Assad’s survival is a guarantee of continuing strife in the region, and he will never be able to control Syria again, as even his backers implicitly acknowledge. MichaelAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-46124201991014288572016-10-13T09:54:43.025+13:002016-10-13T09:54:43.025+13:00"I'm not sure that is my opinion but in m..."I'm not sure that is my opinion but in my rhetoric it may come across because of my buttons and linguistic style"<br /><br />Yeah, that's what I suspected. I have a rhetorical style that is sometimes easily misunderstood as well, as I'm sure you have noticed on another blog! That's partly why I gave up on it. The moderation here at ADU facilitates much better debate and discussion.<br /><br />In terms of Russia and the USA, my desire is for much closer and friendlier relations, and hopefully one day an alliance.<br /><br />All the more reason to hope for a Trump victory! :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-52673072896939665922016-10-13T09:18:28.961+13:002016-10-13T09:18:28.961+13:00Interesting that an English Socialist paper takes ...Interesting that an English Socialist paper takes more or less the same position as Ron Paul :) <br /><br /><i>" When a politician has to appeal to millions of people in a fairly short amount of time, reason is useless."</i> - Shawn Herles<br /><br />And they do this by pushing peoples buttons - in this case using the feminist narrative of accusing DC of misogyny and showing him to be a pig - and those remarks were those of a crass individual and that's a fact<br /><br />We all have our buttons and when I become intemperate it is because mine have been pushed <br /><br />When HC diverts from the damaging (to her) release of the DNC Emails by blaming Russian intelligence for the leaks she is exploiting American cultural memes that have cast Russians as the bad guys for generations - Shawn and I have sparred for some time :) and our differences lie in history and culture even though our world view in the important things is the same more or less<br /><br />I have teased Peter over a movie review he did on some occasions because the movie Citizen 41 was in fact highly offensive to me<br /><br />And politicians exploit our buttons to advance their agendas - sociopaths are skilled at identifying which buttons to push to get people to comply to their will<br /><br />Shawn wrote this of me <i>" And Andrei's opinions regarding the USA as the source and perpetrator of all evil that can never do any right, even accusing the US of being the anti-Christ that is leading us to the Apocalypse"</i> - I'm not sure that is my opinion but in my rhetoric it may come across because of my buttons and linguistic style<br /><br />I believe in Christian unity but politicians can drive wedges between Christians then that is something clearly not from God and is anti Christ if not the literal anti-Christ<br /><br />This is too big for a blog comment to elucidate fully but it goes to the heart of this post and to the issues facing us in the wider world<br /><br />Andreinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-85772605819255471412016-10-13T07:58:53.467+13:002016-10-13T07:58:53.467+13:00Apropos The Morning Star: Not exactly "As I w...Apropos The Morning Star: Not exactly "As I walked out one midsummer morning". Unless his violin echoes the strains of that quartet on the deck of the Titanic ...Bryden Blackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15619512328964399016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-16065406917579990982016-10-13T07:08:22.214+13:002016-10-13T07:08:22.214+13:00Apropos of the debate in comments above, this Morn...Apropos of the debate in comments above, this Morning Star editorial may be of interest: https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-5ee4-Flirting-with-World-War-III Peter Carrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-3974526093925599152016-10-13T00:21:02.923+13:002016-10-13T00:21:02.923+13:00"in a rational Presidential campaign"
P..."in a rational Presidential campaign"<br /><br />Political campaigns in a democracy, any democracy, are never rational, and never will be. When a politician has to appeal to millions of people in a fairly short amount of time, reason is useless. Hence the circus. But, for now, it's what we're stuck with.<br /><br />"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - UnknownAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-3092384120518140082016-10-12T22:25:15.774+13:002016-10-12T22:25:15.774+13:00Shawn asks "But more importantly, what does t...Shawn asks <i>"But more importantly, what does this..."</i> referring to the chaos in Africa and the Middle East<br /><br />It has everything to do with the subject of this post which on a superficial level asks about selective moral outrage regarding an unseemly conversation surreptitiously recorded and then strategically released to sabotage a political campaign - a political dirty trick coupled with spin<br /><br />And again there is selective moral outrage over the Syrian Government's endeavors to secure East Aleppo from the hands of Al Nusra<br /><br />It is the same thing except the Syrian question is far far more important than <i>"locker room banter"</i> and perceived <i>"sexism"</i><br /><br />And in a rational Presidential campaign it is the former that we would be debating not the later<br /><br />Is there anyone reading here, regardless of position on the Middle East and Russia, who thinks otherwise? <br /><br />And the fact we have been drawn into the former, a distraction, at the expense of the later should scare the pants off you or it would if you were aware of the troop movements and fleets building up in strategic regions of the globe as we speak<br /><br />But carry on... Andreinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-14034128021112522602016-10-12T21:38:54.735+13:002016-10-12T21:38:54.735+13:00What topic was that Peter?! That BOTH Clinton and ...What topic was that Peter?! That BOTH Clinton and Trump are perfect representations of the vagaries of secular 21st C western politics??<br />Seriously: Kyrie eleison ...Bryden Blackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15619512328964399016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-57132272136126786902016-10-12T21:34:45.543+13:002016-10-12T21:34:45.543+13:00Does all this, not show the futility and insanity...<br />Does all this, not show the futility and insanity of man raising himself up against the Word of God. For those who deny the relevance of God's revelation to Moses; just look back on his WISDOM to God's chosen people: Deut.8:1 on and concluding with verse 17;" "And thou shall say in thine heart,My power and the might of mine hand has gotten me this wealth.v.18 But thou shalt remember the Lord thy God for it is He that giveth thee power to get wealth,that He may establish His covenant which He sware unto thy fathers,as it is this day.v.19 And it shall be,if thou do at all forget the Lord thy God and walk after other gods,and serve them,and worship them,I testify against you this day that ye shall perish.v.20 As the nations which the Lord destroyeth before thy face,so shall ye perish; becauce ye would not be obedient unto the voice of the Lord thy God"<br /><br />Very pertinent words for every American voting in this election.As Joshua said: Choose this day whom ye shall serve. Glen Youngnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-17606951476160461712016-10-12T19:56:20.631+13:002016-10-12T19:56:20.631+13:00Well, I'm inclined to the view that both Micha...Well, I'm inclined to the view that both Michael A and Andrei are wrong. Michael is overestimating the degree of success in Libya, and wrong that deposing Assad in Syria is the answer to the Syrian civil war. And Andrei's opinions regarding the USA as the source and perpetrator of all evil that can never do any right, even accusing the US of being the anti-Christ that is leading us to the Apocalypse, is far from a realistic and balanced assessment.<br /><br />Both the USA and Russia are imperfect nations, filled with fallen and imperfect people, as all nations are. The current US admin is persecuting Christians in the name of gay rights and abortion rights, and the Russian admin under Putin has banned the preaching of the Gospel on Russian streets.<br /><br />But more importantly, what does this, or for that matter Ron bringing up GAFCON and the GS, have to do with the issues Peter has raised in this post?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-31620286250166267802016-10-12T19:40:09.155+13:002016-10-12T19:40:09.155+13:00My only support of Trump rests on the hope that th...<br />My only support of Trump rests on the hope that there will be an America, where the ACNA might flourish and be allowed to resurrect the foundation of a society, where OBJECTIVE MORALITY is the norm.It certainly won't and cannot happen under Clinton, with her agenda of anything other than orthodox Christianity. It cannot happen under Clinton with her appointing Supreme Court Judges who will interpret the Constitution, so that ORTHODOX CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS cannot live and earn their livings,while abiding by their God Inspired Consciences.A vote for Clinton, is a vote against the RELIGIOUS FREEDOM GUARANTEED by the Constitution.A healthy vibrant society cannot be founded on neo-Darwinistic/cultural Marxist secularism.Glen Youngnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-90085932849547249062016-10-12T19:09:11.792+13:002016-10-12T19:09:11.792+13:00And by the Way Michael A
Russia's involvemen...And by the Way Michael A <br /><br />Russia's involvement in Syria is at the request of the lawfully recognized authorities in Syria and is perfectly legal under international law unlike the USA's involvement in Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, South Sudan and Libya - Vladimir Putin has a higher degree in international law and is scrupulous about dotting the <i>i</i>s and crossing the <i>t</i>s though you will never believe this being fed Western propaganda <br /><br />And why Russians can described as engaging in terror bombing when the Americans <i>et al</i> and the Saudis are not is as mysterious to me as quantum physics would be to a dead mouseAndreinoreply@blogger.com