tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post5742202999337642443..comments2024-03-29T22:00:02.999+13:00Comments on Anglican Down Under: Standing Committee Regrets Consecrations of Robinson and GlasspoolPeter Carrellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-79561365077761926482010-08-01T18:46:50.995+12:002010-08-01T18:46:50.995+12:00Hi Kurt,
Everyone agrees we are in a crisis. The d...Hi Kurt,<br />Everyone agrees we are in a crisis. The disagreement is about whether it's a good crisis (the official TEC position) or a bad crisis (the majority AC position).And it's not a "vast, right wing conspiracy" from the IRD either. The Global South and GAFCON, who are leading the charge against TEC's innovations, have nothing to do with the IRD.<br />Andrew Reidspicksandspeckshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08926414811291442183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-2166246788093984482010-07-30T07:31:47.073+12:002010-07-30T07:31:47.073+12:00Hi Tim,
Thanks for the reminder about the powerful...Hi Tim,<br />Thanks for the reminder about the powerful and influential Greek Anglican Church!! I had forgotten about them :)Peter Carrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-6371656420731590232010-07-30T07:18:52.582+12:002010-07-30T07:18:52.582+12:00Re. your interest in 'Theological Education in...Re. your interest in 'Theological Education in the Anglican Communion'. Have no doubt - beware of Greeks bearing gifts.Tim Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13316071177447733796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-49535793051907810612010-07-30T02:17:01.990+12:002010-07-30T02:17:01.990+12:00Andrew Reid, the so-called “crisis” is a phony “cr...Andrew Reid, the so-called “crisis” is a phony “crisis” manufactured by the right-wing evangelicals of the Institute on Religion and Democracy (IRD), an organization that has a very sleazy past from the Reagan era.<br /><br />Kurt Hill<br />Brooklyn, NYKurtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-4453607656565811902010-07-29T20:48:58.533+12:002010-07-29T20:48:58.533+12:00I think Mr Isaacs is beginning to experience what ...I think Mr Isaacs is beginning to experience what Bishop Mouneer Anis described in his resignation letter from the SC as his presence being like a "useless cry in the wilderness" and of "no value whatsoever". Whenever anyone wants to actually try and deal with the crises confronting us, we get more of "we regret this..." and "we value that..." and "let's dialogue/indaba some more..." and "let's refer it to this other group...". What a joke!<br />If they really "regretted" their actions, they would throw in some other "r" words too, like "repent" (what we did was wrong) and "renounce" (we won't do it again) and "reconcile" (we will seek forgiveness from those we have wronged and repair our broken relationships). <br />In fact, the ACC has often frustrated or thwarted the attempts of the other instruments to deal with these crises. It has ignored decisions of the Primates' Meeting, and diluted the outcome of the Windsor Report. It is like the fruitless tree in Luke 13, where the vineyard owner waited for years for it to bear fruit, but it did not. The only effective action in these crises has come fom the ABC himself, which demonstrates that none of the other instruments are any good in a crisis. The Primates' Meeting has bark but no bite, ie moral and spiritual authority, but no operational authority. The Lambeth Conference doesn't meet often enough to deal with crises, and we all know how the last one was neutered so it couldn't speak with clarity or authority. Only the ABC and the ACC have any clout operationally, ie the powers of recognition and invitation. Yet, the ACC uses its powers to delay and prolong the crises, rather than solve them. The ABC has been guilty of that too, until recently.<br />Anis, Marshall, Orombi and Okrofi have voted with their feet and are investing in alternative structures. I would suggest that's where our future lies.<br />Andrew Reidspicksandspeckshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08926414811291442183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-31102076455057591672010-07-29T19:17:56.124+12:002010-07-29T19:17:56.124+12:00Oh dear, oh dear, how to choose?
Daytime TV gives...Oh dear, oh dear, how to choose?<br /><br />Daytime TV gives us such a choice today:<br /><br />Between the rock-like certainty of traditional values and faith: A Man Called Peter (remember the sermon on Ezekiel and the prophets of Baal?)<br /><br />and the stirring call to launch your little ship of faith upon the stormy waters of today (money! sex! and power!) if you follow Howard's Way:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMPMdD5YACs<br /><br />Al M.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-27334796443312819592010-07-29T17:16:54.071+12:002010-07-29T17:16:54.071+12:00Peter, you say: “(I remain curious about the logic...Peter, you say: “(I remain curious about the logic involved ... If so, there is some interesting logic at play. ...)”<br /><br />Even granting the nature of this public electronic medium, I have to congratulate you on the staggering tone of ‘English understatement’ you have employed here. Well done brother!<br /><br />As a sort-of Aussie after all, I’d be calling a spade a bloody shovel at this point - or rather, something far worse! Both the context of this meeting of the SC and its (so far) published resumeés indeed manifest a manner of “governance”, in which I, as one somewhat versed in African styles of Machiavellian power politics let alone Nietzschean and/or Hegelian styles of thinking and praxis, simply find “trust” ebbing away as fast as the Zambezi in flood over the Vic Falls/Mosi-oa-Tunya (the Smoke that Thunders).Bryden Blackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15619512328964399016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-11406401565144920262010-07-29T15:56:48.542+12:002010-07-29T15:56:48.542+12:00That is my next post, Mark, and I might just pick ...That is my next post, Mark, and I might just pick up cue from your lovely post about +Winston Halapua!Peter Carrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-5391185243018353772010-07-29T15:10:54.137+12:002010-07-29T15:10:54.137+12:00Well...Dear Peter...I think I agree. Now, how woul...Well...Dear Peter...I think I agree. Now, how would we begin the Communion again?Mark Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06871096746243771489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-32856628907314302072010-07-29T09:50:27.171+12:002010-07-29T09:50:27.171+12:00With one outstanding witticism, Howard, you have l...With one outstanding witticism, Howard, you have leapt to the front of the contenders for "ADU Comedic Commenter of 2101!!" :)Peter Carrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915617830446943975.post-68449535437036415412010-07-29T09:43:44.340+12:002010-07-29T09:43:44.340+12:00Peter -"If I had my way (!!) I would begin th...Peter -"If I had my way (!!) I would begin the Communion again."<br /><br />Howard - "Thanks be to God for all his abundant mercies!"Howard Pilgrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11822571103485207143noreply@blogger.com