Anglican Down Under: Fascinating Facebook Posts re No Motion/movement (?) on Motion 4 (about Motion 30)

Thursday, May 12, 2016

Fascinating Facebook Posts re No Motion/movement (?) on Motion 4 (about Motion 30)

Thanks to Brian Dawson (Wellington) a couple of snippets of #gsthw16 re Motion 4 on A Way Forward. Is the second post below indicative of a final 2016 decision????

Post One

Post Two

At 10.10 am as I post there is no "official" news on Taonga.

UPDATE:

10.30 am ... following #gsthw16 on Twitter, it seems that the motion will be tabled for more work, reportback in 2018 ... sadly, already seeing "unity at expense of justice" and "shame" comment ... I do not think such comments do justice (!!) to being Anglican which involves serious commitment to catholicity, apostolicity and unity.

2 comments:

Rosemary Behan said...: Obdurate .. that is the accusation from Brian Dawson. Strange, I see his reflection as just as obdurate. Sigh .. no wonder there is no meeting of minds. It's not just one side that has already made up their minds.; May 12, 2016 at 11:33 AM
Peter Carrell said...: Hi Rosemary
Right now it is very hard to see the way forward between the minds which are not meeting.; May 12, 2016 at 12:21 PM

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Thursday, May 12, 2016

Fascinating Facebook Posts re No Motion/movement (?) on Motion 4 (about Motion 30)

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